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    • Just went to register with a gym here because I wanted to mix my Calisthenics workout with weighted training (Squats and Deadlift esp.) and because the fucking workout park isn't that public, seems to be closed most of the time. fml.
      Anyway ofc tried to negotiate the price, asked a couple questions if they have a promotion or if we could do anything because I wanna save money :D Guy behind me jumps in "You can't get a discount here, I tried too, it doesn't work!" Thanks motherfucker.

      I'm reading "Don't split a difference" atm it's a book about negotiation. Only 1/5th in so far but tried it out here and there and got an Airbnb down to 1.2k Euro/month from 1.7k before I came to Krakow (didn't take it tho) and got 50Euro of my current rent although that doesn't really count, she almost asked me to tell her a better price lol. I was really uncomfortable negoiating about the agency fee tho. It's usually 1 rent + 20% VAT in Poland (it's what I heard from a different estate agent) but I negotiated 25Euro down and didn't have to pay any VAT.

      At least something :D

      I remember asking about extra bacon on my wrap and other free stuff last year haha. I took a very dominant approach there just like if you tell a girl that you call her an uber home when you kick her out, like there is no other option ^^ Just asking kinda works most of the time but I got in some spots where the employees had certain rules that they think they can't bend and I hit a wall with them. Being dominant totally doesn't work there, also tried other stuff but seemed like I was missing some social skills for it :D I think most important is empathy in those spots but as I said I'm just 1/5th through the book.

      Probably gonna be back on the grind tomorrow.

      I also adjusted my workout plan (I haven't been working out for the last 2 weeks -,-,-, -) to do less reps, so I can move through the progressions a bit faster and build more strength. I have done 3x15 intentionally at the start to just get the movement patterns right. Now I'll move up a progression when I hit 3x8.
      du bist einfach so ein menschenverachtender Volltrottel. Hf mit deinen 100K, vllt schämst du dich in 10 Jahren genau wie 9/10 Lesern hier für deine Beträge du sicker Gamer^^^^^^
      -it'sjustabluff
    • lust1germolch wrote:

      I also adjusted my workout plan (I haven't been working out for the last 2 weeks -,-,-, -) to do less reps, so I can move through the progressions a bit faster and build more strength. I have done 3x15 intentionally at the start to just get the movement patterns right. Now I'll move up a progression when I hit 3x8.
      usually you should do sets of 5 or something around that if you want to learn a movement instead of high reps where your form will break down pretty often. At least that is the way you do it in powerlifting or olympic weightlifting. So instead of splitting your 45 reps to 3 sets I would split them into 8-10 sets.
      "Spiele nl100/200/500 Zoom agressives Konzept"
    • I actually didn't feel like updating because it might just be an ego update lol but I learned some important lessons in the last days and just got rewarded today.

      Some buddies I know from game were in my city on the weekend assisting some bootcamp. It was quite random, I didn't know what was going on until my buddy asked me if he could stay a night at my place and I was in the worst sleep schedule ever for pimping but anyway they have their own stuff to do, it's fine. Just joined the free talk on the weekend, hung out a bit and catched up. Over the days I got a little bit of a brain reboot, seeing them doing well with their habits, everybody improved in their life in some way and being on track with their stuff motivated me to stop slacking and getting back on track myself.
      The "lesson" I learned tho was when I hung out with all of them, some I know more some I know less and they are all quite natural and past "pick up" stuff. Just solid cool dudes that still go out and pimp it.
      In the last months I worked to let my authentic self out much more. I just pushed it to the extrem and literally had nights where it was more fun to get away with whatever you just said. However this can go into the very extreme and I just noticed it form the facial expressions when we were all having dinner/ socialising that I was just too uncalibrated / going over the top with my language a couple times. So I went into the lab and started thinking :D
      It's pretty obvious lol but I think that nobody will be able to accept you/ be comfortable with you if he/ she has to be scared you could be too out of line in her social circle.
      We are all making retarded jokes all the time but there is this slight nuance between being a fun social guy and being weird. Hard to explain but I translated this to game obviously and toned it back a lot from the start. Just opening very simple "Hi I'm Felix" or "Hi are you from here?" obviously with good subcommunications etc to basically see if my basic product works (myself :D ) without any crazy extras. And basically to also start from the right mindset, just very relaxed and to the point.
      I went out a couple nights now to see if I can just get into some chill/ cool conversations and it works. I feel like I changed 5% of my mindset in this area which helped my presence as a relaxed, cool guy and my language become so much cleaner.
      I don't have a lot of these social gatherings and usually talk lots of game with the friends I travel with so this really helps to become more social and calibrate a little better.

      AND NOW THE FUCKING REWARD BITCHES!!!!
      My buddy stays a night at my place and was just storing his and his girls luggage here for the day, they hung out in town the whole day and needed to grab her luggage at like 8pm because she has a flight back home.
      I went out to the shopping mall to do some daygame because I had like 3 hours until they came back. Of course it took me an hour to do the first approach, haven't approached a girl in daytime in months but yea, it took me a couple days to figure all this stuff perfectly out that I have written above and I just went in with that chill mindset and tried to open simple and start a conversation. Got the facebook of the first girl she had a bus to catch but I felt like it went pretty good with what I had planned.
      Got a water from some shop a bit later and saw some hottie walking past, did my "Hey, hi are you from here?" and talked a bit to her. It went quite well, have no idea what we talked about but I took her to sit somewhere, instead we went outside the shopping mall so she could smoke lol. Anyway she seemed to be free the whole day and I think I have never gamed better. I knew I have like 1.5 hours and that it's going pretty well. I kind of had to push but I just made the best out of every minute actually not pushing but going into the right direction with the whole thing and going with the flow. Just trusting that it will work out. We decided to go for some drinks and I could see she was good to pull. At one point on the way to the bar I noticed some slightly disappointing facial expression when I backed off a little from going to my place in a joking way. I can't remember what exactly we were talking about. So I asked if I can trust her she obv said yes and then I told her we can actually go grab some drinks in a shop and chill with some music. "where?" .. "at my place". She thought for a sec and was cool with it. Usually you shouldn't really mention "my place" but in this case first of all she was dtf and second I said it being very sure of myself, like I expected her to know it.
      Got the drinks from the shop, she was happy to take my elbow and we went home.
      30-40 Minutes left we arrived at my place, I texted my buddy if they can take like 15-30 mins more time. Still very happy to take everything super chill although under time pressure. Of course you have to take risks but the opportunities come up and she also knew about my situation. hung out 10 mins, music on, poured some drinks and just had this 2sec too long eye contact, I almost just took a zip but then fuck it and went for the kiss taking the "risk" at the right time. Then just teased her we should finish the drinks while already throwing her around on my bed and the rest followed :D this kind of teasing "put your bra back on, I make you a tea, relax" actually takes so much pressure off because your are not pushing for sex and it makes her work for it even more and it's fun obv. else she is way more likely to be uncomfortable (because you might be pushy under a time constraint) and shows last minute resistence and then it takes waayyyy longer.

      From what I know the process was quite flawless and I was just in the moment and on top of that we had like 5-6 times where we were both just thinking the same, we clicked really well and it's an awesome chick and on top of THAT she is fucking hot. She models so she is obv a 10 :D j/k but I'd say 8.5 mayyyybe 9. avg height, super long hair, nice ass nice boobs nice shape, Felix is very happy :D

      And lol we totally were lost in time when fucking so my buddy and his girl rang so I had to jump to the door and put clothes on while we were at it, it's like a super high pressure moment for her but she dealt with it super well, I probably said the best thing ever in this moment "He's my best friend, I would have told him anyway" it kinda slipped out, I didn't expect that it would take so much pressure off xD

      It still feels so random, like as if I didn't do any work, just went out, bought a water and went home with a hot girl. As if it's just a normal thing I do when going for a walk. lol.
      du bist einfach so ein menschenverachtender Volltrottel. Hf mit deinen 100K, vllt schämst du dich in 10 Jahren genau wie 9/10 Lesern hier für deine Beträge du sicker Gamer^^^^^^
      -it'sjustabluff
    • lust1germolch wrote:

      I'm reading "Don't split a difference" atm it's a book about negotiation. Only 1/5th in so far but tried it out here and there and got an Airbnb down to 1.2k Euro/month from 1.7k before I came to Krakow (didn't take it tho) and got 50Euro of my current rent although that doesn't really count, she almost asked me to tell her a better price lol.
      Hey! I've almost finished the book as well, just in the audio format. Interested what kind of techniques have you used in your case here and how did it actually went, smooth or not ? :)
    • motiejus wrote:

      lust1germolch wrote:

      I'm reading "Don't split a difference" atm it's a book about negotiation. Only 1/5th in so far but tried it out here and there and got an Airbnb down to 1.2k Euro/month from 1.7k before I came to Krakow (didn't take it tho) and got 50Euro of my current rent although that doesn't really count, she almost asked me to tell her a better price lol.
      Hey! I've almost finished the book as well, just in the audio format. Interested what kind of techniques have you used in your case here and how did it actually went, smooth or not ? :)
      I still haven't read further but I also talked with a friend who read it and he gave me some tips as well. With the Airbnb negotiations I focussed much more on empathy. Maybe I even overdid it like "I know this sounds ridiculous and your apartment looks like it's worth it's price but unfortunately I am on a budget and I don't know how I am supposed to pay that." and I tried to get to the "no" where they can't lower the price anymore but it's fucking uncomfortable. but basically like he said in the book, when you hear the no the negotiation actually starts. With the Airbnb I just couldn't aford 1.2k/month so it didn't really matter.

      the rent - I basically knew beforehand that it was possible to negotiate, my airbnb dealer told me that it's maybe possible so I just said the exact price he told me and she kinda offered it anyway, so was not much of a negotiation but small things happened as well, I asked for a couple extra things in my flat which she also was open too und I adjusted the rent contract to take out a paragraph.

      There was also an agency fee unfortunately and when she called me to ask how I want to pay that I actually started negotiating, connection was bad as fuck so was very hard but there I just asked her "how am I supposed to pay that?" not sure if I did it well because she was the owner of the agency company and obviously has the most leverage to be able to change the price... I also started suggesting something "Maybe we can just half it" maybe that was weak and I should have let her done the work. Also the connection kinda cut out sometimes and I kinda agreed on 25Eur, the connection came back and she was rambling and then the delayed message I spoke came in and she was "OK OK 25 eur off" xD

      then I had a situation in the gym where I was trying to negotiate the price from 25 eur per month to less obv idk I just straight up asked if they have any promotion running or if we could take something off the price. Pretty blunt actually "because I want to save money" :D Was not possible and then some random dude jumped in "hey man you can't get a discount here I tried too, it doesn't work!" - thanks bro :D I think this is also in the book but my buddy told me later, a good response would have been "Ok you didn't get a discount, what is the Felix discount?" (I don't know exactly how my buddy phrased it but something like that)

      I did a better job when I went into a club, he said "it's 20 zloty to get in" and I responed "It's 20 zloty for everyone to get in, how much is it for me?" he said 10, I said ok ^^

      So yea I think most important is that you try it and obviously I could have saved more money but I got a better price in almost all cases. And btw I don't really know if the girl from the gym applied a discount or not but its 99 zloty(25 eur) per month but so far I just got charged 85 zloty for the gym on my credit card :D Maybe she did some magic, would have been sick :D
      du bist einfach so ein menschenverachtender Volltrottel. Hf mit deinen 100K, vllt schämst du dich in 10 Jahren genau wie 9/10 Lesern hier für deine Beträge du sicker Gamer^^^^^^
      -it'sjustabluff
    • lust1germolch wrote:

      I tried to get to the "no" where they can't lower the price anymore but it's fucking uncomfortable. but basically like he said in the book, when you hear the no the negotiation actually starts.
      Now i really went through the whole book, but planning to right away listen to it all once again :D

      Most of the examples do indeed make sense, like specific situations where HERO negotiates a lower rent price, based on the fact that the owner doesn't have all the leverage as there are outside factors like competition, explotation expenses etc, same with hostage negotiation, where of course villain's have what HERO wants the most - a relative, but they don't have what they want the most - HEROs money (or whatever else). Still the main thing is that leverage is not completely in one's hand, so it's not like it CAN"T be negotiated. However, one particular example got me a bit skeptical - a piece where author talks about a car (red truck if i remember correctly) which he for some reasons starts to desire more than anything, so of course he pursues to get it, but he finds out that around the reasonable area there's an actual demand for such cars and there's only one car dealer who actually has that specific car, but the price was higher than author was willing to pay (again, could be wrong, but it was like 38K to 30K) and yes, author again went for the trics in the book, first complementing the car, showing his interest and willingness to buy the car, but then went to the "i don't have that much available, how i'm supposed to pay that?" AND THIS IS WHAT GOT MY ATTENTION - in this situation what kind of leverage does the buyer actually has??? If there are limited amount of cars (only 1 in this case) and the demand is actually existing, had i been the seller i would just answer with something like - "sorry to be so rude, but it's certainly not my problem, that you don't have the needed amount, but since the car is high on demand i'm positive i will find other buyer that actually CAN affort it" - overall it just seems that seller here does indeed have MOST of the leverage and i'm thinking that there are more situations like this where even with good negotiation skills it might not be possible to cut out a better deal - with that said, of course talking from my introvert POV who hasn't done much if any REAL negotiation myself :) What do you think about it? :)
    • I didn't read the example yet but it sounds like you put too much logic to it like he described in the beginning of the book. The "old" way was to consider all pros and cons and make it a competition. Also the leverage on your side would be that you buy the car right now and the seller doesn't have to wait another couple days or more.
      People are emotional and what you are basically trying to do is that he wants to solve your problem (or you solve it together) and this needs some level of emotional investment from both parties. Thats how I would describe it in game terms :D And of course he probably has a price where his logic has to say no but you gotta figure that out. Also a relation to game is that he can only have one focus so if he is seeing that you are highly interested in this care and made him comfortable that you know how much his initial deal is and then he starts focusing on your problem he just can't focus much on other stuff like some guy buying it in 2 days for a bit more.
      Don't realy have time to write more right now, gonna meet the chick again :love:
      du bist einfach so ein menschenverachtender Volltrottel. Hf mit deinen 100K, vllt schämst du dich in 10 Jahren genau wie 9/10 Lesern hier für deine Beträge du sicker Gamer^^^^^^
      -it'sjustabluff
    • Yo yesterday I just realized that the girl and I accidentally never exchanged names. I also asked her and the first time I heard her name was when she had to leave and introduced herself to my buddy. I thought "wow haven't heard that name in a while" xD
      du bist einfach so ein menschenverachtender Volltrottel. Hf mit deinen 100K, vllt schämst du dich in 10 Jahren genau wie 9/10 Lesern hier für deine Beträge du sicker Gamer^^^^^^
      -it'sjustabluff